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American Prestige

Bonus - Gladiators, Ep. 1 w/ Patrick Wyman (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Patrick Wyman, host of the Tides of History podcast and author of The Verge: Reformation, Renaissance, and Forty Years that Shook the World, is back on the program, this time to talk about Ridley Scott's Gladiator films. In this first part of the conversation, they largely focus on Gladiator II, delving into the actual historical merit of the movie, the figures it depicts, both films' commentary on modern masculinity vs the reality of ancient Rome, the political economy of gladiators, Ridley Scott's Orientalism, beast fights, differences in how the two movies portray ideas of democracy, and more. Subscribe now for the full episode! Read Patrick's piece for Slate, "The Case for Gladiator II". Be warned, this is full of spoilers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello,

0:03.0

Hello, Prestige Head's

0:09.0

Welcome to American

0:11.0

Hello, Prestige Heads and welcome to American Prestige. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade Derek Davidson.

0:27.4

And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today. History hunk Patrick Wyman. You know Patrick.

0:33.7

And he's also the host of the podcast Tides of History and the Pursuit of Daddliness.

0:38.5

Those are two separate podcasts and you should listen to them.

0:41.8

So we've invited Patrick to talk about Gladiator 2, but before we do, I just want to make clear.

0:46.8

We're not actually talking about the fake Gladiator 2 that was just released in theaters.

0:51.5

We're talking about the original Nick Cave script.

0:54.3

That's right.

0:54.6

There's only one gladiator to.

0:56.5

In which Maximus organizes the Christians of Rome against his own son, Lucius, who has been

1:02.5

persecuting Christians after his mother was stoned to death by them.

1:06.7

And then Maximus also lives for eternity and fights in Vietnam, the Middle Eastern Wars,

1:12.6

and becomes head of the Pentagon.

1:14.5

So Patrick, what did you think of Nick Cave's script?

1:16.7

I'm just kidding.

1:17.5

We're talking about Ridley Scott's new Gladiator 2 movie.

1:20.4

So Patrick, I guess before we get into a bunch of the things, what did you guys think of the movie?

1:26.9

I thought it looked kind of

1:28.2

like not very good. It looked a little bit dog shit, especially compared to the original.

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