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American Prestige

Bonus - Gaza’s “Ceasefire” and the Kushner Plan w/ Tariq Kenney-Shawa (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, News, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Subscribe now for the full episode! Derek and Danny are joined by Tariq Kenney-Shawa from Al-Shabaka for an update on conditions in Gaza and a discussion of Jared Kushner’s proposed “reconstruction” plan. They talk about the current phase of the so-called ceasefire; ongoing Israeli military actions; population displacement; humanitarian access; the expansion of Israeli control inside Gaza; Israel’s long-term objectives; population management; Kushner’s vision for Gaza requiring mass displacement, surveillance, and the end of Palestinian political life; and Palestinian-led alternatives for reconstruction. Read Tariq’s piece for The Nation, “Jared Kushner’s “Plan” for Gaza Is an Abomination.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:12.0

So with all that kind of, you know, me ranting,

0:16.0

Toddok, what is your sense of where things stand

0:19.2

in terms of the so-called ceasefire and the humanitarian situation?

0:22.6

Yeah, thanks, thanks for that, Derek.

0:24.6

I mean, you kind of broke it down pretty well yourself.

0:27.6

I'm kind of, the way I'm looking at Gaza today and the period that it's in right now,

0:32.6

kind of feels like it's really in this period of purgatory as basically as the world decides Gaza's fate, right?

0:40.3

And as you said, Gaza has now been split in two, about 53% and counting.

0:46.3

As you said, you know, Israel is expanding that yellow line that bisects Gaza about in half between east and west.

0:53.3

Israel controls the east side, Hamas, still maintains some form of control over the west side.

1:00.0

And basically, you know, this is, we're entering month four, we've entered month four of the so-called ceasefire.

1:07.0

We've gone from phase one, which was supposed to be just the ceasefire, the handover of

1:11.6

hostages and prisoners of war, the continuation of humanitarian aid. And we've seen,

1:18.5

the only thing that we've seen actually follow through is the handover of the hostages and

1:21.8

prisoners of war. Israel has continued, as you mentioned, carrying out air strikesrikes on a daily basis. Basically, Palestinians

1:30.6

in Gaza are thankful that the killing has gone down from 90 to 100 people per day to,

1:38.1

you know, 20 to 30. And that's pretty much, you know, it's obviously a very grim way of putting

1:43.9

it, but that's the reality on you know, it's obviously a very grim way of putting it, but that's,

1:45.0

that's the reality on the ground. And again, as, you know, basically as the world is kind of playing

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