Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt.

And today we're talking about buying what you love without today, but Jen and Jill are basically like the girl version of us.

They just got longer hair.

Just kidding.

They really are friends, though. They talk about money

on their podcast, Frugal Friends, which they started right around the same time that we started

ours, I think, back in 2018. One big difference, though, they've written books, and specifically

they have a new book hitting the shelves in January. They don't have that kind of attention span,

do we, Matt? No, no.

The name of the book, Buy What You Love Without Going Broke.

And that is exactly what we're talking about today, spending money.

We're going to talk about all the ways that we're doing it wrong, how to go about

spending money in a healthy values-driven manner, ways to support those new habits, all that

and more today. We've got a lot to discuss. There are four of us here, after all, all of us

podcasters, so I think we're going to have a lot to get through. So we'll cut to the chase.

Jen and Jill. Thank you so much for joining us today on How to Money. Thanks for having us. Such a pleasure to be here. Yeah, it's a full house.

We love it. Most definitely. We're excited for you, excited for this new book. And, but first question,

out of the gate that we've got to ask everybody who comes on is what's your craft beer equivalent.

What do you like to explore John? We're going to talk about spending here today. What do you

like to explore John while you're still being smart with your money and thinking about your future. So for me, I think it's a little weird, but for me it's not weird.

I buy pre-cut vegetables, which in the frugal living space is like a gas.

Like, why would you spend extra to have your vegetables pre-cut?

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