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Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Bonus: Fr. Richard Rohr on Thérèse of Lisieux

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

On this special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates interview Fr Richard Rohr about his special connection to Thérèse of Lisieux. Richard Rohr is a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher who bears witness to the deep wisdom of Christian mysticism and traditions of action and contemplation. Founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, Father Richard teaches how God’s grace guides us to our birthright as beings made of Divine Love. He is the author of numerous books, including The Universal Christ, The Wisdom Pattern, Just This, and Falling Upward. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux, Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠St. Thérèse of Lisieux: Essential Writings (Modern Spiritual Masters Series), edited by Mary Frolich⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠podcasts@cac.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a voicemail: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cac.org/voicemail⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until May 15, 2026. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at ⁠https://cac.org/support-cac/⁠ Thank you!

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.

0:04.3

To learn more, visit cac.org.

0:08.3

Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.

0:11.1

And I'm Kirsten Oates.

0:13.1

Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.

0:29.3

Welcome, everyone, to season 13 of Turning to the Mystics, where we've been turning to to Terez of Lizu and her story of a soul.

0:33.8

And I'm here with Jim, and we're so delighted to be welcoming our special guest, our dear friend

0:40.2

Father Richard Raw, to the podcast.

0:42.9

We're excited to have him here because we know that Therese is one of his favorite and most

0:48.7

influential mystics.

0:50.8

But before we start, for those of you who don't know Richard, he's the founder of the

0:55.9

Centre for Action and Contemplation, he's a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher,

1:01.6

and bears witness to the deep wisdom of Christian mysticism and traditions of action and

1:07.6

contemplation. Father Richard teaches how God's grace guides us to our birthright

1:14.0

as beings made of divine love. Richard is the author of lots of books, including the Universal

1:21.6

Christ, The Wisdom Pattern, Just This and one of my favorites falling upward. Well, we're so thrilled to have you with us today

1:31.4

for turning to the mystics, Richard. Welcome. My privilege, thank you. I'm one of my favorite

1:38.2

and most important subjects, Trez. That's why we wanted to have you on this season.

1:44.6

We're excited to be able to learn about that.

1:46.9

I thought we'd start with having Jim just share a little bit about how he approached Torres this season,

1:53.2

so we can all be on the same page with the listeners.

1:56.0

I'd love to hear that.

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