Hey folks, as a special for our Beast Inside listeners, we'd like to offer you this extended

interview with James Hamlin from the Atlantic magazine and Yale University.

James gave us more than we could possibly use in our podcast interview about the coronavirus

crisis, treatments for COVID-19, and how the administration has mishandled the entire

crisis.

We hope you'll enjoy it.

James was a brilliant guest and we learned a lot.

So James, I'm going to lead with this because I'm a ray of sunshine, but then I'll ask

the alternative version too.

It's your worst case scenario for COVID and corona in the next year, and contrary, what's

your best case scenario?

This is only based on me speaking regularly with disease modelers who know more than I do.

The worst case is that the antibody tests you're seeing are not actually very accurate.

They're not picking up true coronavirus.

They're picking up coronavirus antibodies that refer to other coronaviruses and they don't

confirm you.

We've lost 30,000 or so Americans in the last about a month.

Right.

We might continue to have society shut down to a degree that it is, which is really devastating

to people financially and emotionally and in other health ways.

You know, we're canceling elective surgeries.

People can't go see their doctors for things they want to go see them for.

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