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Everybody, welcome to the writing room with Kimberly Stewart.

Kimberly, how are you today?

I'm so well, Bob.

It's so good to see you and to hear your voice.

It's so fun because we get to talk to our friends and

people that have been offing and not a word, but what a great concept. And Jason Van Ruler

has been a great friend for years and years and he's with us today. And he's written a book.

It's called Getting Past Your Past. So, Jason, welcome to the podcast.

Hey, thanks, Bob and Kimberly. It is literally a dream to be here. So I am in good spirits as I come into today.

Oh, so good. So tell us when you're not running from the law, like, what is it that is a week of your life?

It's mostly. It's mostly running from the law.

That is most of what I spend my time doing.

Well, you know, I act as a therapist.

You know, that's part of the gig, is to be a therapist.

And then travel around and I get to do workshops and just really try to help people get to that next

place. How would the word that you decide therapists? Because like some people are thinking,

astronaut or policemen, were you like in the fourth grade and you go, I'm going to be a therapist.

How do you feel about that? Yeah. Bob, I have really always been a therapist. I should have brought it today, but I have a journal

that, because I, of course, therapists, I journaled at age eight. And I said in my journal, what do I

want to be when I grow up? And it said therapists. And I think the reason, I'm serious, I think the reason is

I already dressed like one. I already wore corduroys. I already had the shoes. I was just on my way

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