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Okay listeners, we promised you a bonus episode of our very first episode from five years ago.

Elizabeth, are you ready? We are going to replay that first episode.

Oh my god, Gretchen, it's hard to believe that it's been five years, like a whole half decade that we have been doing happier.

And when I just listen to it, it sounds like I have a gun to my head.

You know, I literally checked the speed of my player to see if I had accidentally switched it to house speed.

Because I thought we both sounded like we were speaking so slowly. What was going on?

I know. And Gretchen doing the show would take so much out of us.

We'd record then we'd talk on the phone about it and then we'd be like wiped out for the rest of the day.

You just drained every ounce of strength out of me. It took us a while to build up more stamina.

Yes, it absolutely did. And then one fun thing, Gretchen, is that the first time we recorded this,

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