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Welcome back to Mama Mystery. I am your host, Kelly. And today's episode is part two of the Ryan Waller case with my friends over at Weird True Crime. So last week I shared with you the episode of

Ryan's story and today's episode is going to be my conversation with them about Ryan's case

and where things stand today. So this is not going to be like your typical episode because nothing

about this is going to be scripted. It's all just conversational. But before you go, make sure you

give a weird true crime a follow

wherever you stream your podcasts. And thank you so much for listening to and sharing Ryan's story.

It is so important.

So the first episode that you guys published about this story was so gripping. And I listened to it. I was hooked. I loved how you incorporated so much of the actual

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