I took Zach to Wightsburg and showed him around when he was doing research for a film.

Do you remember that, Zach?

Oh yeah, that never got it. I don't know if you want to talk about it or whatever but.

No, no, listen, we're just, we're just, yeah, this is good.

It was about, you know, snake handling, preachers. Like a, I was doing a film and then there was I just I think I just

I think I just seen that movie the true meaning of pictures yeah Shelby Lee Adams you yeah. And there's like other stuff around that stuff, like the Appalachian stuff and you know, we knew a lot of people in the string instrument community, a lot of people go to cliff top which is like the

West Virginia Music Festival but it's a lot of people from you know old time music

old time music all that stuff there's just like a whole confluence of that. This is a years and years ago and Christian and I and our dear friend Justin went out there on a trip and we were just like kind of just messing around all over that that area and meeting really hilarious people went to

some place the brown derby where we met

You know the brown derby is that in Viper?

It was like a no it's on Viper.

I think it was in Wiesburg.

It's like the oldest lesbian bar in Appalachra.

That's what they said.

Is that? I think it's over in Perry County but yeah yeah yeah.

Yeah. And we met we met this guy named Big City and we're you know we're on a budget you know we're

We didn't know where we were going to stay. We figured we just camped somewhere, but then you get down there and it's like, it's not like campgrounds. It's like people's land and coal mines. not like a very obvious place to like camp for the night.

So this guy, this is exact, sorry, Zach tells the story so well.

Zach, I want to throw it, got to throw it back to you.

I don't know but we were we were at this bar and this dude is like he's like oh you guys are

interested and you want to find some snake handlers.

All right, well, sure, but I know where you can find a tortoise show.

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