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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Bonus episode: the first ever More or Less

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A chat with More or Less's founding producer and presenter plus the first episode in full. Tim talks to Michael Blastland and Sir Andrew Dilnot about how More or Less came into being (after several rejections), whether politicians and journalists are more numerate now, and where the name come from. Then, the very first episode of More or Less, originally broadcast on Radio 4 on 13 November 2001.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Hello loyal podulators, Tim Halford here with a bonus episode.

0:09.6

If you've listened to the final episode of the Autumn Radio 4 series of Morales, you'll

0:14.4

know that the 20th anniversary of the programme is fast approaching.

0:18.7

It's the 13th of November, in fact.

0:21.5

As promised, here's my conversation with the programme's creators.

0:25.5

The presenter, Sir Andrew Dillnot, and speaking first, producer Michael Blastland, and it's

0:30.6

followed by the very first episode ever broadcast.

0:34.5

We'd proposed, I think, a couple of ideas for series which were just battered back,

0:38.5

you know, no interest.

0:39.5

And I think there were numerous objections, you know, that it was a boys thing, a bit train

0:43.3

spotter.

0:44.3

In other words, it's boring.

0:46.7

You can't do numbers on the radio, that was a common one.

0:48.7

You know, if you're reading numbers, you can go back and check them, you know, but they're

0:52.2

too hard otherwise, just in radio.

0:55.4

And I don't think any of this was right, but you know, it was an established view.

0:59.6

And so having tried all these sort of attempts to get something on Andrew and I finished

1:04.6

up in a pizza rear just around the corner from the Institute for Physical Studies one lunch

1:09.5

time, and he said, okay, what are we going to try next?

1:12.6

And for some reason, I don't really understand.

1:15.0

I said, let's offer it as a magazine programme about numbers, thinking of numbers as a language

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