Two and a half years ago, Zee came into the studio and did a shop talk where she discussed a book written by Bob Altamire in 2006.

And ever since that moment, and increasingly over the last year, we've had members request that we release that episode publicly so everyone can hear it.

We've even had people suggest that we release it as a standalone purchase,

but that just seems weird to me. So I'm just going to release it here on the main feed right now.

I hope you enjoy it, and the next regular episode will launch later today or tomorrow. Thanks for listening.

Chivalry is here, and it's starting to get weird, and it's only going to get weirder.

This is shop talk.

So today, instead of just chewing over what's been going on in the more recent podcast, I thought

we'd take time to pause

and sort of open up and explore something

that we just briefly touched on, I think, in the latest episode.

Is it because we're moving too fast?

I feel like it's because we're moving too fast

in the narrative.

Don't say that they're gonna get mad.

No, I, what's gonna happen is because deliberately,

we wanted to tell the story of the conquest

very fully. So we've been very, like the lens has been very close. But we didn't want to just

tell the conquest without the resistance. Yeah. So we've been stayed similarly close to the resistance

because to tell one with the other is to really miss the story. Oh yeah. And this is a huge moment in history. So we've stayed very close and we're going through the story, the complete arc of Harward as well. Yeah. So we have that other element present and that people know about it. It's also just an untruth to tell such a story of conquest and not and pretend that there

was no resistance. Yeah. Because that is the story of the people being conquered is, is their

resistance to it. And it's, it's always present in some form. And yeah, like, that was one of the

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