What is up everybody? Scott here with a very special edition of Challenge Mania. This is a special bonus podcast on the heels of survivor winners at war coming to a close on Wednesday.

Lindsay and I had the pleasure of chatting with three time survivor player Mr. Ethan Zahn about this season about all this time on survivor the first two times he played including his time winning on survivor Africa.

The charities he has started based on his time on survivor all the money he has raised all the ways you can get involved in the products that you can purchase to help raise money for cancer research and all these other great things that Ethan is involved in.

But of course we find out what went into his mentality voting for Natalie coming off of the edge of extinction in the season that eventually led to Tony Vlachos winning survivors winners at war.

We have a lot of fun with Ethan and we hope you guys enjoy it Lindsay and I typically do our survivor podcast over at patreon.com slash challenge mania.

It's a great place to listen to our chats about the whole season they are free you can go and listen to them up there right now we broke down every episode of survivor winners at war.

This was a great way to put a cap on the season we wanted to put it up here for all you guys to enjoy one of the great things we do over at patreon.com slash challenge mania.

In addition to the madhouse every Wednesday is our survivor podcast that we do with Lindsay who knows more about survivor than anyone I know so she was the perfect person to talk to Ethan Zahn with hope you guys dig it if you enjoy it hit up Lindsay on Twitter she is at Lindsay the otter hit up Ethan on Twitter and let him know that you heard him on the show he is at Ethan Zahn and of course remember to follow me at shot of Yeager why a GER on Twitter at Scott of Yeager on Instagram and Facebook.com slash.

Challenge mania podcast is always open grassroots soccer is his charity go and check it out he's also selling some really cool swag that you can get to help raise money for cancer research as well.

Follow me on Twitter at Ethan Zahn but without further ado here he is Mr Ethan Zahn talking survivor winners at war.

Ladies and gentlemen we have a very special guest on the line with a three time survivor player Mr Ethan Zahn is here what's up man what's up how you guys doing we're doing great we're so excited to speak with you after that epic finale I know it's pretty not right yeah it's crazy that you know you've been a part of three seasons of survivor the first two of which were I mean a lifetime ago especially for you and everything you've got to do with it.

So many events in the way that people watch survivor cover survivor I mean correct me if I'm wrong but social media really wasn't the thing that it is today back and you played the first time and here you are coming back to play such an uplifting appearance for you all season long and then this big finale here what is about I just want to ask you you know how was this experience different obviously for you you know on a personal level meant so much you to go out there and do it.

But just from an experiential level how much has the show evolved in the last time you played.

Well the show has evolved like ridiculously you know when I played the first time 2001 in 2004 we didn't have idols or currency or ways to get back in the game or blind sides tribe swapped nothing like it literally was like playing underwater it was like slow motion back in the day so to

come out of retirement I guess you could say after 16 years to try to play this game again with a daunting task.

So but obviously I welcomed it and I was excited to get ready to go play but it was a little overwhelming at first.

Yeah it seemed like there was a little bit of a different sense here between the players like a more of a sense of joy with each other and respect for the game this season did you feel that the camaraderie on the edge that you know that the.

Vinyl tribal council standing ovation and the applause at the fire making talent you talk about why you think that was that there was a different feel.

Sure yeah I do feel that you know even within the construct of this cutthroat game of survivor there is this undercurrent of exactly what you said joy respect camaraderie honor you know integrity for the game itself so that I.

I think was a beautiful moment so as players we are twenty former winners all coming back to play again you know we we understood the magnitude of what was going on and so I think we all respected that part of the game and therefore you know there were some.

Bond that you know where form that will probably never go away there are some bonds that were not formed it probably never will form just because that's what happened you know these these games these reality TV show games which i'm sure you guys are familiar with.

From watching or if you participated in one.

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