Bonus Episode: Summit Series interview with Francis Fukuyama on Elon Musk, tech billionaires and truth
The Beat with Ari Melber
Ari Melber, MS NOW
4.6 • 4.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 March 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Ari Melbert from MSNBC. Thanks for listening to The Beat with Ari Melbert podcast. |
| 0:04.9 | We want to share some extra programming today, so buckle up and stay tuned for a special edition from MSNBC brought to you by the Beat with Ari Melburgh podcast. |
| 0:14.9 | When big things happen, there's usually a rush to find causes or explanations. |
| 0:19.4 | The fall of communism spawned years of debate over who in the West might get credit for that |
| 0:24.2 | and how to explain what was the greatest geopolitical shift of at least 50 years. |
| 0:29.5 | The COVID pandemic stoked urgent questions about its natural or lab causes, and again, |
| 0:35.4 | for many who to blame. |
| 0:40.5 | Politico's no elections are obsessively explained. |
| 0:45.9 | Was Biden's 2020 win a rejection of Trump or just recoiling from that same pandemic? |
| 0:53.4 | Was Trump's 2024 win a MAGA embrace or more of a revolt over that era's high prices? Well, nowadays, there are more sources offering explanations more quickly than ever before. |
| 1:01.0 | From the news media to podcasts to people posting theories online, there is, of course, no monopoly on truth, |
| 1:07.0 | but if we're talking about claims regarding why things are happening, well, |
| 1:13.1 | they can be tested against facts over time. And a lot of quick takes can be proven incomplete or |
| 1:19.7 | wrong. Some splashy claims or big ideas in print ultimately flame out, while other carefully |
| 1:25.8 | researched books sometimes prove correct. |
| 1:29.3 | To get specific, here are four history books that have advanced knowledge and stood the test of time, |
| 1:35.3 | which can be instructive as we now try to make sense of volatile conditions. |
| 1:40.3 | Now, one of these books you see on the screen is by the acclaimed professor, Francis Fukuyama, |
| 1:46.1 | known for several influential nonfiction books, including liberalism and its discontents, |
| 1:51.0 | and trust, a now 30-year-old exploration of that idea of trust in modern society and economics, |
| 1:57.7 | and issues that certainly apply to United States' sense of distrust right now. |
| 2:03.4 | He also wrote the acclaimed and controversial book, The End of History and the Last |
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