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This is the pack a day podcast.

I am one of your co-host, Perry Goldstein, joined as always by Magny Loney.

And this week, we have a very special guest.

If you follow the NFL at all, you have undoubtedly read or listened to her work.

If you are on Twitter, you have definitely experienced the A-plus memeage.

She is a senior writer at ESPN and an NFL analyst for NFL Live.

She has done color commentary for the L.A. Ram's preseason games.

The list goes on, but most importantly, she's Lenny's mom.

It's Mina.

Hello, thank you for having me.

I wish Lenny was here, but I'm in a hotel room in New York.

We also wish Lenny was here, I'd say.

Thank you for joining us.

It's honestly, it's an honor.

We love your work, and we're super excited.

Super excited to talk about the Seahawks Packers match up, but also, you know, you and your journey in the NFL and, you know, with all the craziness that's happened in the last

like week around the NFL. So as with all guests, we usually start with just letting our

listeners get to know you. And so you, of course, have had an extensive award-winning

journalism career. What was it like in 2014 when ESPN offered you a position? And did you have

any reservations about kind of marrying a passion with a career? I had a ton of reservations because

it wasn't something I was pursuing

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