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DISGRACELAND

Bonus Episode: Satchmo and Secret Agents

DISGRACELAND

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Music, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.613.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This week, Jake is thinking about the CIA and its role in our culture. Has the CIA played a part not just in political dirty tricks overseas, but also in the music and culture that are part of our daily lives? Plus, We hear about Jake's grandfather, whose dream was to join the CIA, but who was rejected...hmmmm...sounds exactly like the kind of cover story a CIA agent would tell!

Since Valentine's Day is nearly upon us, we're bringing you an episode on one of the most disgraceful romances in music history: Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungen. Jake wants to know: What are the most notorious rock star couples in music history? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life?

0:05.0

Just a touch to get you through?

0:07.3

Yeah, me too.

0:08.7

This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.

0:11.7

Welcome to Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party.

0:33.8

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full

0:37.5

episode of disgrace and to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode,

0:42.6

we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Louis Armstrong. Also, musicians who have been

0:49.0

co-opted by the CIA throughout history. We're previewing our upcoming Valentine's Day episodes and we get into your voicemails,

0:56.6

text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of rosy.

1:01.3

All right, discos, let's get into it.

1:04.9

Thank you. So one of the many fortunate aspects of being a parent is that it forces you into conversations at school events, you know, your kids' games or parties with people who you wouldn't otherwise socialize with. Your kids kind of

1:30.3

force you to make new or additional friends. I'm not telling the parents anything they don't

1:34.9

already know. I'm just stating this for those of you who might not have children.

1:38.9

And because this is how I found myself in conversation recently with the grandson of an

1:43.6

original CIA member just the other day. I was a in conversation recently with the grandson of an original CIA member just the other day.

1:46.8

It was a fascinating conversation because this dude's granddad went all the way back to the OSS.

1:52.5

That's the World War II era version of the CIA before they had a name for it.

1:56.9

The OSS and early CIA was made up of a bunch of Ivy League students whose dads were

2:02.1

captains of industry and finance, defense, government, et cetera.

2:06.6

That's where this dude that I was talking to traces his lineage.

2:12.2

And I won't go into the stories that he shared with me that his grandfather shared with him,

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