Hey Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life?

Just a touch to get you through?

Yeah, me too.

This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.

Welcome to Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace sand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.

On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's episode subject, Dennis Hopper.

We are also discussing two cultural giants that we lost last week, David Johansson and Gene Hackman.

And we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. I'm going to be. So since the last time we talked, which was during last week's after party, we lost two giants.

I think we can use that word giants from the world of entertainment, David Johansen

and Gene Hackman. Two men, two artists of immense influence, David Johansen, of course, as a New York

doll. He was the last living New York doll as well, a band that he led, a band that directly

influence so many others, a band as exciting and

thrilling and dangerous as the city that it represented, a band largely reflective of

David Johansson's unique style and personality, which was tough, witty, funny, iconoclastic.

If David Johansson never created the New York

dolls, it's doubtful. I really truly mean this. This isn't hyperbole. It's doubtful that we would

have had bands like the Stooges, the Ramones. And if we didn't have the Ramones, then we wouldn't

have had the clash or the sex pistols. And we definitely wouldn't have had, you know, without the New York Dolls, we definitely wouldn't have had Kiss or Motley Crew. At the very, at the very least, Motley Crew would have been a hell of a different band if the New York Dolls never made it into Nikki Six's record collection. I didn't grow up in New York Dolls fan. They were before my time. I came to them

late. I came to them actually through Johnny Thunders' solo stuff. So I wasn't there, obviously,

when they started, it was before I was born. But in the research I've done both on the New York

dolls and on bands like Blondie, in reading, especially in reading Legs McNeil's book, Please Kill Me,

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