This is a Concealed Carry podcast special episode.

And welcome to the Concealed Carry podcast, part of the Concealed Carry.com network.

I am your host, Riley Bowman, flying yet again solo today, as today is just a special,

just, I say just, today is a special episode of the Concealed Carry podcast, where I'll be playing

back in the interview that Jacob and I did together with Tony Lambrae of UTM Worldwide.

Now, these are the guys that are well known for their training ammunition, blanks, marking rounds.

Also all the firearm conversions necessary to do this.

I mean, these are a competitor with another well-known simulated ammunition company, if you catch my drift.

And they make some incredible stuff.

I find it to be incredibly versatile, lots of fantastic options, compatibility with tons of

different firearm products out there.

Not only that, though, by the way, they make personal protective equipment, portable

training facilities, equipment that goes along with all of this at every, you know, as far as from a training perspective.

And that's another thing, too. These guys are trainers. And they really get it. And they understand training. They understand safety. They understand shooting. I mean, they're shooters. They're good dudes.

You're going to enjoy listening to this interview together with Mr. Lambrae.

I do want to mention, though, that today's episode is brought to you by Glock and by UTM.

Glock was so kind to have us in their booth at Shot Show 2018, where we recorded this interview together with Tony.

And, of course, Tony and his company for being so gracious to us.

And this is not the first time we've talked with Tony either.

It's the first time he'll make an appearance on the podcast.

But I think we've got a video or two with UTM on our YouTube channel that you can go check out.

So speaking of which, by the way, we are going to be at the USCA Expo coming up here in just a

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