Hey everyone it's Rachel Maddo here.

Because of the July 4th holiday we are not releasing a new episode of Ultra this week.

Don't be mad, don't be mad, it's going to be worth the weight.

We'll have episode 4 for you next week.

But I do have something to hold you over in the meantime and it's something

I'm quite excited about I recently got to sit down with the legendary Pulitzer Prize

winning playwright and screenwriter Tony Kushner who is an all-time hero of mine

This is still something I can't quite believe but Tony Kushner and the equally amazing Danny Strong are currently

working on a screenplay for Stephen Spielberg based on the first season of Ultra.

So I sat down with Tony, we were in Provincetown, Massachusetts,

so it was a live audience.

I started by reading an excerpt from my book Prequel,

and then Tony and I talked about prequel and about season one of

Ultra and some of the themes in this new season of Ultra and we talked about some of

the resonant dynamics for lack of a better term, that we are

seeing in our current political moment. I also need to warn you that it has two terrible dad jokes in it for which I do not

apologize. But here's me and Tony Kushner. I'll be back next week with a

brand new episode of Ultra. One last note, remember if you want to get each

new episode a few days early and if you want to skip the ads, you can subscribe to MS NBC premium on Apple Podcasts, but if you don't, that's fine.

It's free to listen anywhere you get your podcasts and every new episode comes out on Mondays.

All right, for now, here's my conversation with the great Tony Kushner.

Thank you so much for being here.

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