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I am so excited to be able to have Kelly back on the show. I talked to you a while ago,

and we talked about conspiratorial thinking and the Flat Earth Society, et cetera, et cetera.

And you were researching it and writing about it. And I know that you have been immersed in that as well as other things,

too. And I wanted to check in with you and kind of have you update us on some of the new trends,

some of the things we should probably be watching out for, and what you've noticed, sort of the

twists and turns of these societies, because I always find that very interesting.

So if you don't mind taking a moment to just introduce yourself and then we'll start talking.

Thank you so much for having me. My name is Kelly Weil. I am a reporter at The Daily Beast,

where I cover the far right and conspiracy theories and disinformation. And I am most recently the author of Off the Edge.

It's a new book about the flat earth movement and conspiracy culture at large.

I love the name of it, the title, Off the Edge.

So take us wherever.

What have you found?

What have you researched?

We'll get cooking.

I'm sure you have a lot to share.

Sure. So I've been on the disinformation beat for a while now. It's been very active, as you might

imagine. There is a lot of conspiracy content around a lot of misinformation. But around

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