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I've learned a lot about hypnosis from you and doing interventions with you and how you've taught the clients about the percentage of people who are kind of hypnotizable.

And also, I guess, to varying degrees, really is a better way to say it.

And what makes someone so?

And also your own story about balking at the notion that you were

hypnotizable, which brings us to talking about Dr. Margaret Singer, who I'm going to be doing a

bonus episode about and doing the people whose shoulders I'm standing on bonus episodes

and James Randy the bonus episode

also and others because you know you want to give credit where it's due and i think also with joe zimhard

who's been on the show these are names that are going to come up in your story but first talking

about being hypnotizable and what makes someone more or less so.

So maybe I'll just talk a little bit about the context of understanding it and then answer that question a little bit.

So because I filed a lawsuit against the university in federal court in Washington,

one of the things that we had learned to do was to levitate to save the world, but it sounds crazy.

And our attorney explained to us that we were going to have to convince the jury of our peers,

and this would be primarily a middle-class population in the D.C.

Why this, you know, white kid from Florida, from a middle to upper middle class family could

believe any of this? I mean, why should they give you anything? So there was that element,

and we had to figure out, like, how do you're going to explain this? And one of the experts in my

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