Before this BBC podcast kicks off, I'd like to tell you about some others you might enjoy.

My name's Will Wilkin and I Commission Music Podcast for the BBC.

It's a really cool job, but every day we get to tell the incredible stories behind songs, moments and movements,

stories of struggle and success, rises and falls, the funny, the ridiculous.

And the BBC's position at the heart of British music means we can tell those stories like no one else.

We were, are and always will be right there at the center of the narrative.

So whether you want an insightful take on music right now or a nostalgic deep dive into some of the most famous

moments in music check out the music podcasts on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds music radio podcasts.

Hello, it's Lucy here.

I hope you're enjoying Lady Killers.

It was such a great series to make and I learned such a lot. This is an

extra episode for you. Something a bit different as there are no ladies present today.

I am talking to fellow historian and

broadcaster Greg Jenner who I can tell you from personal experience is the

kindest man in history. We talked about his fabulous BBC Radio 4 podcast You're Dead to Me.

And we also discussed his time on horrible histories and lots of other things too.

You can find You're Dead to Me on BBC Sounds, but first here's some of our conversation.

So Greg, can you believe you've done five serieses now of you're dead to me? How many episodes is that?

Honestly, I've lost track. You've lost track.

You've lost count. So many.

I think there's probably a time of recording there's probably about 67 available

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