BONUS EPISODE - John MacArthur & "Loser Theology" | Live with Pastor Joel

Theology Applied

Right Response Ministries

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 801 Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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John MacArthur infamously said to the Church of Jesus Christ, “WE LOSE DOWN HERE!” With all due respect, there are a few problems with this. Register for our Spring 2024 Conference, "Blueprints For Christendom 2.0: Seven Doctrines For Ruling The World." https://www.tickettailor.com/events/rightresponseministries/898231

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0:36.9	you'll take the time to do so. Thank you so much.
0:39.7	God bless. So Pastor John MacArthur from Grace Community Church in L.A., California, has infamously said,
0:47.5	we lose down here, speaking to Christians, speaking to the Church of Jesus Christ, we are going to lose.
0:57.0	We will not waltz into the kingdom of God.
1:00.2	The post-millennial hopeful eschatology is a sham.
1:04.4	The reality is that we lose down here.
1:06.9	Don't take my word for it.
1:08.4	Go ahead and take MacArthur's.
1:09.8	Let me play the clip, and then I'll break it down.
1:11.6	Oh, guess why? We don't win down here. We lose. You ready for that? Oh, you were a post-millennialist. You thought we're just going to go waltzing into the kingdom as you took over the world? No. We lose here. Get it. They killed Jesus. They killed all the apostles.
1:35.4	We're all going to be persecuted. If any man come after me, let him, what, and I and himself garbage of prosperity gospel no we don't win down here you ready for that
1:52.1	just to clear the air i love this clarity we don't win we lose on battlefield, but we win on the big one, the eternal one.
2:07.6	I love that clarity too. Let me start with that. I love that clarity. Because a lot of times we talk around one another. We use ambiguous language. We are not clear about our theology,
2:20.3	the implications of our theology, what we actually mean, what we actually believe. And so here
2:25.6	we have John MacArthur, not a bunch of Christian nationalist advocates, which I would be one,
2:31.2	right? I'm not necessarily excited about the label, but I do fall into the camp.
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