Bonus Episode: Job
Join The Journey
Watermark Community Church, Dallas, TX
5 • 827 Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
In this special bonus episode, Wes Butler is back with Kyle and Liz Johnson talking about Job 16-18 and answer the question, "What do I do with the loss of dreams as a result of suffering?" Kyle and Liz also talk about the loneliness that can be felt while suffering and how to continue to rest in God's love for you in the midst of it.
Additional References: Proverbs 30:15-16
To connect with our ministry Shiloh visit https://www.watermark.org/ministries/shiloh
Christopher Ash Book: Trusting God in the Darkness: https://a.co/d/cqv3eof
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | All right now, if we're honest, reading the Bible consistently can be a challenge, but it's never |
| 0:05.4 | too late to start, and we're in this together. This is the Join the Journey podcast. |
| 0:12.1 | Thanks for joining. This is Wes Butler, director of care ministries here at Watermark, and I'm back |
| 0:17.7 | today with a bonus episode. We recorded the same day, but you'll hear this |
| 0:22.6 | two days ago. You got to hear from Kyle and Liz Johnson. And as we kind of hit stop on the |
| 0:28.5 | recording for that day, we continued to talk and realize, and there's more meat on this bone |
| 0:33.8 | that we really want to cover. Specific to Job's articulation of the death of a dream |
| 0:41.4 | begins to speak in chapter 17 talking about his future his spirit being broken the days ahead of him |
| 0:49.5 | you know or just there's nothing hopeful that he's kind of viewing. And you guys have some really |
| 0:57.1 | helpful thoughts, I think, for us in that. Because, and especially if you missed Colin Liz's story, |
| 1:03.2 | the diagnosis of what will be a lifetime chronic illness for their son Jonathan and all the |
| 1:10.3 | kind of the hopes and dreams that come anytime |
| 1:11.9 | you welcome a child into the world and what you envision their life being like and your interaction |
| 1:16.8 | and that's not unique necessarily to someone with a child like Jonathan but it's for really many |
| 1:23.3 | of us that's like I mean I thought this was how life was going to go. And then the curveball |
| 1:27.6 | came. And so talk to us about that, you know, as you read those chapters and Job gives voice to it, |
| 1:33.7 | how does that give voice to you guys as you think about that and the future that's ahead? |
| 1:38.7 | Yeah, so I think the key verse for us here was in chapter 17, verse 11. my days are over my hopes have disappeared my heart's |
| 1:47.7 | desires are broken and and so it's this line that all he sees is this no entry sign for his future |
| 1:55.8 | his ability to look forward his ability to dream of what the future could hold has been completely |
| 2:02.9 | decimated. And I think that is something that we immediately experienced when we found out that |
| 2:09.5 | Jonathan had a genetic disorder. And I think it's something that many people have experienced, |
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