Bonus Episode- Interview with Philip Fairbanks, Author of "Smash, Smash, Smash"
That's So Fcked Up
Ashley Love Richards
4.5 • 541 Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Ashley and former co-host Michelle talk with author, and personal confidant of Caleb McGillvary, aka "Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker", about his book Smash, Smash, Smash: The True Story of Kai the Hitchhiker. Kai's story was intensely misrepresented in the smash (sorry y'all can't help a good pun) hit Netflix documentary, The Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker.
In our episode we tell the whole story, including Kai's side of it, which was completely left out of the documentary. Philip is here to answer some lingering questions that I think we all had.If you haven't yet listened to our episode on Kai, make sure to go listen to it before you listen to this interview!
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| 0:00.0 | That is so fucked up. It's fucked up. So fucked up. It is just so damn fucked up. That's fucked up. |
| 0:17.9 | We're officially started. Michelle's here. Do you like Phil, Philip, PD? |
| 0:23.0 | Phil or Philip, whichever is more comfortable. I'm gonna call you Phil. You feel like Phil. |
| 0:28.0 | That's great, yeah, yeah. |
| 0:29.0 | It's Phil Millier, you know? |
| 0:31.2 | Right, yeah. |
| 0:32.2 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 0:33.2 | So y'all may or may not know me and my co-host. I'm Ashley Richards, one of the hosts of |
| 0:43.5 | That's So Ficked Up, the podcast of this account. And I'm Michelle Mosier, the other co-host. And that over there, |
| 0:51.4 | Philip Fairbanks. And he is, I'm so lucky to have found him. |
| 0:57.0 | He is, you know, why don't you introduce yourself? |
| 1:00.0 | I'm a writer. I've been writing since I was a kid. |
| 1:03.0 | I've been publishing since about, you know, 99, 2000 online and in print. |
| 1:08.0 | One of my recent publications regarding Kai the Hitchhiker, City University |
| 1:13.1 | New York, Graduate Newspaper, The Advocate, did a story in June of last year. I've been covering |
| 1:17.9 | this story since 2017. I spent nearly a full year trying to beat Netflix to the punch with a book, |
| 1:24.1 | and they still beat me about like three weeks. |
| 1:29.7 | But yeah, they reached out last. |
| 1:34.4 | Honestly, that's a good idea because they just gave you a fuck ton of free publicity. |
| 1:40.8 | Because anybody who watched that documentary, hopefully if you watch that documentary, you were able to see that it was extremely biased. |
| 1:44.1 | They completely left out all of the |
| 1:46.4 | fucking defense for Kai. Like other cases, I don't know these other reporters who did these |
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