Today we're dropping a really special episode because one of our favorite all-time guests Helen Fisher has died at

79 and I must say it hit me and Tammy like a ton of bricks this woman who is a sex and relationship and love researcher

was brought to my attention by my daughter Claire and after the episode came

out it was a huge hit with listeners. And Claire and I actually went uptown in New York and met her for a drink one day between doctor's appointments for her.

She was a very bright light,

a person who carried things lightly

and had a huge impact on the way we understand what draws us together and what

pulls us apart. And as you know grief is so weird so this news of Helen Fisher dying hit me the very same day

that my parents house settled they had owned it for 55 years it was their one and

only home they were the first and only owners.

It's moving on to a family with three little kids and there's something about loss

I think that makes us more tender to other losses. So to Helen Fisher's family, I just want to be one of the many, many people who says, I adored her and she changed the way I think about very important things and she was

gracious and funny and eager to meet and ready to make new friends with me and my daughter over Apparall Spritzes on the Upper East Side.

So thank you Helen Fisher for this great conversation and for a lifetime of work.

Welcome back to Kelli Korgen wonders.

I'm Kelly Korggan and my guest today is

Dr Helen Fisher. She's my new favorite person. She's a biological

anthropologist. She is at the Kinsey Institute as a senior research fellow and she's the chief science advisor to match.com.

She also created a personality quiz which we'll link to in the show notes, to help people better understand themselves

and their partners. It's been taken by over 14 million people in 40 countries.

So the data set is enormous.

Here is my conversation with the candid, informed, and delightful Dr Helen Fisher.

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