Bonus Episode: From A Slight Change of Plans: Musician Jason Isbell on the Complexities of Addiction
The Addicted Mind Podcast
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
4.7 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 9 November 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
We’re sharing a special episode from another podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, from Pushkin Industries. In this preview, four-time Grammy Award-winning musician Jason Isbell discusses how his early career was plagued by addiction. Getting sober allowed him to re-examine aspects of his personality that he once saw as his greatest weaknesses. Hear more from A Slight Change of Plans at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/scp5?sid=addicted.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. Today I'm doing things a little differently and sharing with you a preview of another podcast I enjoy and think you will too. It's called a slight change of plans. On a slight change of plans, Dr. Maya Schunker, a cognitive scientist who is an expert on human |
| 0:22.1 | behaviors, examines who we are and who would become in the face of big change. |
| 0:26.6 | Maya has intimate conversations with people who have faced incredible transformations, |
| 0:30.6 | people like Casey Musgrave, Amanda Knox, as well as everyday inspirations like Richard Harris, |
| 0:36.6 | an Australian doctor who rescued a boy's soccer team trapped deep inside a cave in Thailand. |
| 0:41.3 | In this preview, Maya sits down with four-time Grammy-winning musician Jason Ispell, hailed as one of the best singer-songwriters of his generation. |
| 0:49.3 | Jason seems to have it all, but that wasn't always the case. |
| 0:52.3 | His early career was plagued by |
| 0:54.9 | addiction, and it's something that shows up time and time again in his music, which you'll hear |
| 0:59.4 | when he plays a few special song clips in this episode. He joins Maya to talk about how getting sober |
| 1:05.3 | allowed him to re-examine aspects of his personality that he once saw as his greatest weakness. |
| 1:10.8 | You'll find Maya and Jason's conversation to be relatable, and I hope you enjoy it. aspects of his personality that he once saw as his greatest weakness. |
| 1:16.0 | You'll find Maya and Jason's conversation to be relatable, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. You can hear more from a slight change of plans wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:21.2 | Enjoy. It seems to me like there were just unresolved issues from my childhood that took me from a user to an abuser as far as drugs and alcohol went. |
| 1:42.9 | And, you know, I feel like there was a part of me |
| 1:45.7 | in my 20s that was saying, okay, let's see what happens, you know, let's just see what happens |
| 1:51.7 | when you do those things. That's Jason Isbel, a musician heralded by critics as one of the |
| 1:57.3 | leading singer-songwriters of our time. Jason's won four Grammy Awards. |
| 2:02.6 | You may have heard his hit song Cover Me Up |
| 2:04.7 | from his Blockbuster album, Southeastern. |
| 2:08.0 | Over the years, Jason has been open |
| 2:10.1 | about his struggles with alcohol and drugs |
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