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The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

Bonus Episode: Everything is Still Falling Apart

The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

Christianity Today

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, True Crime

4.813K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Building an institution on celebrity power, charisma, and a spirit of grandiosity attracts a lot of people, money and a certain kind of cache for everyone involved. It helps them all to feel like they're part of something that's big — a movement providing a sense of meaning and purpose. But too often, these movements crumble, and those inside are crushed by the process. It's a pattern that extends far beyond Mars Hill, into the realm of politics, academia, media, and more. In this bonus episode of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, host Mike Cosper speaks to Yuval Levin and Roger Berkowitz about the connections between the failure of our cultural institutions and the phenomena of rootlessness and loneliness, exploring how these related phenomena create the preconditions for charismatic leaders and corruption, He also talks to Russell Moore about what change looks like in the ruins, starting small, and the power of remembering our death. “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer, Writer, Host and Mix Engineer: Mike Cosper Editor: TJ Hester Associate Producers: Joy Beth Smith and Azurae Phelps Music and Sound Design: Kate Siefker Graphic Design: Bryan Todd Social Media: Kate Lucky Editor in Chief: Timothy Dalrymple Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.7

The problem with church is the problem with anybody that gets in any sort of a position

0:34.6

of power.

0:35.6

It's easy to abuse it.

0:37.2

This is Joe Rogan, talking on his podcast with Stand Up Comic and Actor Bill Burr.

0:43.0

From his I have pran, this clip gets pretty rough, though it is edited and censored quite

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a bit.

0:49.1

Even at that, it's still pretty rough.

0:52.0

But I think it's pretty insightful and interesting glimpse at the perspective of outsiders on the

0:56.5

world of celebrity pastors.

0:59.2

You can jump ahead a few minutes if you want to the credits.

1:02.0

So to have a guy who is a pastor that's not a creep and that really cares, but isn't

1:07.6

trying to buy a f***ing Rolls Royce like Joe Olstein and live in a giant mansion.

1:12.0

It's like an always go, always go, always go south.

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It's absolutely out.

1:16.9

You know I do love about Joe Olstein is he's an arena act.

1:19.8

And he does Vegas too.

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