Bonus Episode: Edward Snowden's full interview on Trump, privacy, democracy & more

The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle

MS NOW, Stephanie Ruhle

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4.4 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

On the even of his memoir 'Permanent Record' being published, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden talked at length from Moscow with MSNBC's Brian Williams in an exclusive interview. Here is their full discussion, including portions of the interview that did not air on The 11th Hour because of time constraints. This is their discussion in its entirety in podcast form, edited down slightly for clarity.

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0:00.0	This is Brian Williams and thank you for listening to this special edition of our
0:04.0	11th Hour podcast, our conversation with Edward Snowton, five years after our initial
0:09.8	meeting in Moscow, back when he was one of the most sought after men in the world.
0:14.1	Make no mistake, he is still sought after as his name remains synonymous with the largest
0:20.3	intelligence breach in history.
0:23.1	You will now get to hear our entire interview in this format, which we are making available
0:28.2	because of the time constraints on the television version of the 11th Hour.
0:33.1	We spoke to him via satellite from our studios in New York and Snowton from Moscow.
0:39.4	So Ed Snowton, a lot of people in this country are probably curious when was the last time
0:45.1	you had substantive discussions about coming home to the United States and would this still
0:52.9	be your preference to you still refer to it as home?
1:00.3	The United States will always be my home and I'll always be willing to come back on
1:07.3	a single condition and I've been quite clear about this over the years.
1:11.9	This is that the government guarantee that I have the right and every whistleblower has
1:16.0	the right to tell the jury why they did what they did.
1:20.4	We can disagree about whether this was right or wrong.
1:23.5	We can disagree about whether this is good or bad.
1:25.2	We can disagree about whether this is illegal or illegal.
1:28.3	That's right and proper in a democracy, but we have to agree that the jury is supposed
1:33.9	to be the proper authority to ultimately decide was this right or wrong.
1:38.2	And I hate to say it, but on the current laws, that is explicitly forbidden under the espionage
1:45.1	act, which as you know, it's increasingly being used against the sources of journalism
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