Hello everyone and welcome to the shameless ex podcast. This is your bonus episode. I'm here with myself with April with legend. Hi, hello, and then we also have James Palacio here, also known as Fiona saying James and James.

James, we had the pleasure of meeting at the sex expo in Brooklyn, which we go to every single September. And he sent us his new book, his memoir called the life and crimes of Fiona saying James. And he is here to tell us all about his life.

All the adventures he's been on as an escort. He's also done a erratic massage massage work. He has also done drag and hence the name Fiona saying James and he'll talk a little more about how he got into that.

So before we dive in, I will also read you the bio so you know a little more about James Palacio board and raise in New York City this Spanish and Italian Bronx born native entered the world of female impersonating and escorting in the 90s.

His drag persona Fiona saying James has experience success in nightclubs worldwide as well as being the 15th elected and still the only Latina Empress of the imperial court of New York.

He's appeared in film on two long food. Thanks for everything Julie newmore love that movie stone wall ugly Betty and oranges the new black.

It is most memorable role was playing the resident prison tranny bitch on the HBO series eyes for five of the six seasons love it. His adventures in dragon as starting inspired him to write his memoirs where he shared stories about pushing boundaries and raising eyebrows sexually professionally and personally with no shame for over 30 years.

To learn more visit Fiona St James calm that's F I O and a ST J a M E S dot com welcome James aka Fiona we love having the show.

Hello James.

Hey guys, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

We're excited to have you here and our listeners love everything from learning to hearing real life experiences in the realms of sexuality, especially in worlds that they might not be immersed in themselves.

So can you tell where this is I know you have a whole memoir on this. But just a little bit about how you are you little about your journey, but how you got into the world of escorting dragon to the life that you're in today.

Well, you know, the interesting part with that was it was never anything that I even thought I wanted to do, but you know growing up in New York City Hollywood is always glamorizes prostitution so like I remember being a child and you know seeing these movies with high class escorts and make coats and limousines and it just kind of was appealing to me because you know who doesn't like material things right.

So I'd at the age of 20 I was home and I was looking at the back of the village voice and I saw an ad for an escort agency and I thought you know I believe that everyone should try everything at least once in life.

So at the age of 20 I answered this escort ad I went and had the easiest most amazing experience with this very nice man that sexually speaking we didn't even really do much of anything other than you know kind of jerky each other off and touch each other and I just remember that feeling of walking down the corridor of the Marriott market with $200 in my pocket and thinking oh my god this was the easiest most wonderful thing I ever did.

And in my mind I pretty much thought I was done with it.

Fast forward two years later I graduate college and there's that question now what are you going to do with your life and I had just started dressing and drag a couple of months before that that particular summer again not for any reason it was just sort of accidental way I'd been going to fire rise in and I seen all these drag queens and I would say you know I'm pretty with makeup I could probably do that.

So I started doing drag that summer just I competed in the contest I didn't win the five days late I had my first paid professional booking and realized oh I can make a shit load of money doing this and I'm really kind of pretty so at that point I needed to move out of my parents house because you know I'm gay I'm dressing and drag and my father even though he knew all of that we've had words.

I decided well I need to make money fast so I went back to the village voice sword and escort add an agency looking for escorts and I answered that one met with the guy the matter more serve for that matter and that very first night I had my first escort client and lo and behold it was the same man that I had been with two years before the guy named and he was still at the Marriott market he was still as ugly as in.

He was still easy and breathing I was like oh my god it was like really kind of wonderful that my first official experience was with the same man that I had done two years before and it was it was magical I mean magical because you know he it wasn't anything that that suddenly I was unnerved and anything that made me feel that about anything it was just this wonderful experience and then fast forward the next like.

I was like several clients today and in the matter of like five weeks three four weeks I think I had like six seven grand cash in my pocket and I moved out of my parents house and I've sort of been doing it you know on and off and pretty full time for the most part ever since so that like in both cases it was sort of like I never thought oh I want to be an escort or I want to do drag just all sort of happened and I was like this is actually what I love.

To do you like why didn't they offer a course on this in college actually I would have.

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