This episode contains discussion of child abuse and sexual assault. Please be advised.

Hello and welcome to a special bonus episode of Sinisterhood, a conversation with journalist

Seren Warner. Seren has been instrumental in all of the work he's done on

Perfundity Years, a bunch of other cults too, but we're going to be talking with him today,

specifically about Perfundity Years and if you listen to our episode that came out yesterday

and last week too, you'll understand the severity of what is going on in East Texas right now

and trying to get as many eyes and ears on this as possible to help these folks out and the families

of the folks that are at the ranch as well. Yeah, and that's part of what Seren does too is

on the record interviews with people who have been part of it, who people have may have had

family members or loved ones connected to it. So he has the kind of inside scoop and explains

how he got involved and kind of what we all can do, which essentially share this, make a lot of

noise. So check out the interview and thanks again to Seren for being so generous with all of his

resources. For sure. And you can check out the full video version on our YouTube page.

Just go to YouTube, search Sinisterhood and there's all sorts of fun stuff there, including this

interview. But for now, enjoy a conversation with Seren Warner. So what's your background

for just kind of introduce yourself for us and kind of tell us about your background and how you

got sort of roped into being the cult hunter as you've been called. I was a newspaper reporter.

I wrote for an alt weekly from 2008, like right until the pandemic, when the paper folded because

so much of the revenue came from all these places that weren't advertising because like nothing

was open forever. Yeah. And I had this, I had a cult story that I, well, started off as like a,

I wrote a piece for this magazine about a homicide that somebody from Minneapolis where I live was

killed in Alaska. And while I was following that story, I eventually got to introduce to these

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