Art and architecture being moral starts to break down at the end of the century through like a lot of movements one of which was called

Aestheticism which this is complicated. I don't want to get into it but I think we could get into a

fun moment in art which is the peacock room.

Yeah you mentioned this in passing the last recording we did, which may come up after this,

which is the ghost ship episode, about how we don't really have rooms anymore.

And that's one of the things that like sounds insane but is a hundred percent true.

Have you ever been in a restaurant? Like we just don't have, we just no dividers, there's just nothing.

There's no rooms. I can just hear people scream in a restaurant. I just...

Yeah, but not only the sense of like we don't have divided spaces. just hear people scream in a restaurant. I just...

Not only the sense of like we don't have divided spaces,

but you don't have divided spaces with a sense of like intentionality or like holistic like design

anymore.

When was the last time someone built a room that would be worth transplanting in its entirety into an art museum?

Have you seen my living room?

Probably, probably like 1880 something.

Yeah, yeah, you don't for instance have the X-room anymore unless it's like the name of a conference room, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, there's a hair salon near my house called.

And it makes you want to just...

They just immediately dock yourself.

Yeah.

Oh shit, yeah.

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