Hey, everybody.

Welcome to ABA Inside Trek, the podcast that's like reading in your car but safer i'm robert perry

cruise your host for today now uh for those of you who listen to the show regularly you'll know

that we've sort of we're in the midst of our supervision september episodes and one of the

exciting things we were able to do was speak with Dr. Jamie Hughes-Leika about technology

and how she uses technology for supervision. Now, if you listen to our supervision episodes,

you would have heard a snippet of some of the key points of our conversation. But what you might

not know was that our conversation was quite a lot

longer and included a lot more discussion about not just what are some good technologies,

but what is important about technology? How does one learn new technology? What are some

limitations of technology? We went into a lot more that we thought that our audience might like

to know more about because unlike, say, 10 years ago where you could still say things like,

oh, I don't really use a computer that often to do my work, you really don't have that luxury

anymore because there's so much to do. You need to know so very much. And just doing it,

the pen and paper way isn't going to be effective and efficient, which are two things that

are guest, Dr. Hughes-Lika, is very aware of. So I hope you enjoyed those snippets from

the supervision episode. If you haven't listened to that,

you can go right ahead and do that. Otherwise, though, here is close to our full conversation

about the use of technology for BCBAs. So I am talking on the phone to Dr. Hughes Leika.

How are you doing today? I'm doing very well, Rob. Thanks. How are you? Excellent.

I'm doing great. And so it was really, really nice to get you on the phone because I was able to

speak at a recent conference here in Massachusetts about technology. And as much as I've had to learn

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