This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. So I'm here with Nancy Glass, host of the show

Burden of Guilt. This was one of my favorite podcasts in the last few years. Can you remind us a

little bit about the story? Well, this is a story of a woman who grew up knowing that her baby brother died when he was four months old,

and she was two, but never knowing what really happened and really wanting to learn what happened.

But every time she asked her parents, they would punish her.

They would beat her.

And she grew up in this terrible household.

And then finally, as a teenager, she finally gets a hold of the police report from that night

when her brother died. And the police report says, mother says, two-year-old threw baby out of crib and killed him. And she thinks,

did I kill my brother? When I was two? Could that have really happened? And what happens after

that is the most incredible story, all these twists and turns to find out what

really happened that night and why she carries this burden and why she no longer does.

Well, congratulations on getting the series turned into a docu-series. Paramount Plus has picked it up.

For fans of the show, what will people

find in the documentary that's a little bit different than the podcast? Well, I think they will,

first of all, see the characters involved, and then you will see Tracy Rickel's father,

the murderer. I mean, that's huge because Tracy Raquel's father, the murderer.

I mean, that's huge because Tracy Raquel's father was ultimately found guilty of killing her brother.

And you guys didn't get him to participate in the podcast.

So you're saying we're actually going to see him in the documentary?

Yes, they will.

They will see this man who was in his day considered suave, and this person is not how you would have pictured them to look.

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