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Breaking History

BONUS | Eli Lake & Josh Hammer on Russiagate: Do the New Documents Support Treason?

Breaking History

The Free Press

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4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Do the new Russiagate releases justify Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard’s accusation of “treasonous conspiracy”? In this bonus episode, Eli Lake and commentator Josh Hammer get into the nitty gritty of the newest document releases in one of the most polarizing political controversies of the 21st century: Russiagate. Listen to ⁠Boundless Insights⁠ wherever you get your podcasts for smart, honest conversations about the biggest stories shaping Jewish life, Israeli politics, and their global impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, listeners. We've got a real treat for you today. It is a discussion slash debate that I had with Josh Hammer, a really sharp center-right pundit, journalist, lawyer, who disagrees a little bit with me on the relevance of recently declassified documents from the Director of National Intelligence

0:20.8

regarding Russiagate, something that I've written about for a long time.

0:24.2

I think it's a great conversation.

0:26.1

Now, I know that you are all also anticipating Restless Nation,

0:31.3

the Making of Modern Iran Part 2, where we get into the 1979 Islamic Revolution,

0:36.5

and you will be getting it, but you will be getting

0:38.2

it a week from today. But we didn't want to leave you hanging as we put the finishing touches

0:43.2

on this terrific episode. If you want to get these live streams as they happen, make sure to

0:49.6

subscribe to thefp.com. And here is my discussion debate with Josh Hammer.

0:57.7

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