Hello and welcome to a special bonus edition of origin story.

I'm Doreen Linsky.

And I'm Ian Dunn.

And we thought that it would be a good idea to talk about some of the language and the concepts that have been emerging in coverage and discourse of,

I'm just going to go ahead, we can unpack this later, I would say far-right riots that we have been seeing, or unrest or valid concerns, whatever you want to call them, that have been going on recently,

because I think every time something dramatic happens these days,

there's actually, this isn't just my origin story lenses on,

but you get this whole secondary debate about the language we're using and how the BBC

is framing it or how a newspaper is framing it or exactly what a politician means by a certain

phrase. So this kind of, you know, semantic argument just seems to be an inherent part of

whatever is going on now, right?

Yeah, well, it's how people do the initial skirmishes to try to define the political argument.

It's ultimately kind of not semantic.

It's actually really substantive, right?

Because ultimately, if you can say this is just a protest,

routers inexplicably have headlines saying people on protests against illegal immigration.

You know, you can then, I mean, incredible that Routers are doing that,

that you can just define it in a certain way.

And if you say, you know, this is a murderous pogrom,

you're obviously going to define it in a very

different way. And so really, it's a battle over the political substance, not the language,

but it's conducted through the language itself. Well, we're going to talk about various aspects

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