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American Prestige

Bonus - Democratic Backsliding w/ Francis Fukuyama (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Subscribe now for the full episode and much more content! Danny and Derek welcome to the program political scientist Francis Fukuyama to talk about his recent article for the Journal of Democracy, “Delivering for Democracy: Why Results Matter.” The group explores why Dr. Fukuyama felt the need to address democratic backsliding, what about Trump’s actions have precedents in American history vs what’s unique to this administration, how capitalism interacts with Dr. Fukuyama’s understanding of democracy, whether regulated capitalism is possible without an ideological challenger, the abundance movement, and what reforms can be made to help democracies deliver better.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Danny Bessner, here as always

0:56.1

with my friend and comrade Derek Davison, and we, and extremely, I mean, I got to say I am extraordinarily

1:02.3

excited to welcome to the podcast today. Francis Fukuyama, you know him, but he's also a political

1:08.3

scientist, the author of many books, most recently

1:11.2

liberalism and its discontents. And Dr. Fukuyama is presently the Olivier Nomolini, senior

1:18.5

fellow at Stanford University's Freeman Spogley Institute for International Studies. And we've

1:23.3

invited him to talk about his recent co-authored article, delivering for democracy,

1:27.8

Why Results Matter, which was just published in the Journal of Democracy. So first of all,

1:32.0

Dr. Fukuyama, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks very much for having me on.

1:36.4

So there's a lot to dive into in this article, so why don't we just get into it?

1:40.1

First of all, maybe you could explain the reason for the article and what you were trying

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