Pushkin.

Hey y'all, it's Justin Richmond.

Like all of us, Rick Rubin has been thinking a lot about fear lately.

And few people on the planet understand fear in the same way as Rick's good friend, David

Blaine.

David has made a career of pushing his mind and body to the limit with crazy public stunts,

and staying awake for 63 hours while standing in the block of ice in the middle of time

square.

Or fasting for 44 days while suspended 30 feet in the air and in plexiglass cube and

London.

Feats that blew my mind growing up.

So Rick thought David might be a great person for y'all to hear from about facing fear.

Obviously, this conversation isn't about music, but it does touch on one of Rick's other

great loves, magic.

When he was a kid, Rick studied magic.

And since then, magic's become so much more than just a slight of hand for him.

He uses the idea pulling something out of nothing in his music making, so it makes sense

that he would turn to one of the best living magicians for words of wisdom.

In this conversation, David Blaine runs through his most legendary public stunts and explains

an excruciating detail what he went through physically and emotionally at each step.

He also explains his relatively simple formula for getting through physical and psychological

stress.

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