I'm fine for a poor pensioner.

I'm sure you really scraped your body.

I'm just a retiree scraping by.

I learned a lot about how to get from social security.

You just tell me.

Yeah, so this is in the Vergecast feed this episode.

We're doing it separate from the regular Vergecast.

Walt and I had a show called Control Elite for a while.

Walt retired, as you may or may not know.

But this is true.

This last week was the 20th anniversary of the iMac.

And Walt and I got into a pretty friendly spa on Twitter

about the success of the iMac and where it came from and what it was doing.

And Walt, when you were tired, you promised we were going to pop back around every now and again.

And this figure, like a great time to have you pop back around.

It's also a pretty Newsy time in tech.

There's developer conferences going on everywhere.

So I figured we would just do another little short bonus control out the Elite.

And hopefully we'll do some more in the future.

So thank you for coming on.

It sounds great.

You're paying me for this though, right?

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