BONUS: Cruz vs Tucker Debate: On Israel & Iran- Trump is Right, Tucker is Wrong
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🗓️ 21 June 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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BONUS: Cruz vs Tucker Debate: On Israel & Iran- Trump is Right, Tucker is Wrong
In this explosive episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz and Ben Ferguson
Podcast Recap: Cruz vs. Carlson – A Heated Debate on U.S. Foreign Policy, Israel, and Iran
In this explosive podcast episode, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson talk about Senator Cruz's clash with Tucker Carlson over the future of U.S. foreign policy. Senator Cruz champions a robust alliance with Israel and a hardline stance against Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
Key Highlights:
- Foreign Policy Divide: Cruz defends U.S. interventionism and strategic alliances, especially with Israel, while Carlson criticizes what he sees as endless foreign entanglements.
- Viral “Gotcha” Moments: Carlson stumps Cruz with questions like Iran’s population, prompting Cruz to accuse him of prioritizing viral clips over meaningful debate.
- Iranian Threat Allegations: Cruz cites intelligence reports alleging Iranian plots to assassinate Donald Trump and former officials, sparking a fiery exchange with a skeptical Carlson.
- Accusations of Bias: Cruz accuses Carlson of disproportionately targeting Israel and AIPAC, suggesting a double standard not applied to other allies.
- Moral Clarity vs. Relativism: Cruz argues for American exceptionalism and a foreign policy rooted in “peace through strength,” rejecting comparisons between the U.S. and authoritarian regimes.
- Trump’s Take: Former President Donald Trump backs Cruz’s position, reaffirming his “America First” stance and opposition to a nuclear-armed Iran.
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| 0:35.7 | Welcome, it is Vertiquist, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. It's so nice to have |
| 0:40.0 | you with us. Many of you listening to this on radio around the country, and we are thrilled to have |
| 0:44.6 | you with us as well. Don't forget, we do this show as a podcast, so make sure you hit that |
| 0:49.2 | subscribe or auto download button. If you download Vertic with Ted Cruz, we do it three days a week, and obviously this |
| 0:55.8 | radio show as well. Senator, we've got a lot to talk about in the show, but let's just start with |
| 1:01.8 | the big thing everybody's wanting to hear about, and that is your sit-down interview in your |
| 1:06.5 | office with Tucker Carlson. Well, this week I sat down with Tucker Carlson. We did a two-hour interview |
| 1:12.6 | in my office. And I got to tell you, it was a bloodbath. The two of us, frankly, beat the living |
| 1:19.9 | daylights out of each other for two hours straight. It was, there were fireworks. I'll tell you |
| 1:25.4 | online, there have been over 100 million views on clips from this |
| 1:29.7 | show it it was vigorous it was contested it was look it laid out two very different views on foreign |
| 1:39.2 | policy and and it's what we're going to talk about today. Yeah, it really is incredible on the foreign |
| 1:45.0 | policy front. So let's just start with the basic question that I think so many people have |
| 1:49.3 | been asking me when they saw the snippets of this interview. And I would actually encourage |
| 1:53.2 | people to watch the entire interview, not just the little things that popped on social media. |
| 1:58.8 | But number one, like, why did you decide to do this interview with him? |
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