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I'm Alison Sandi. I'm Brian Seymour. I'm Sally Layden. And welcome to the next episode of

Conversations. I have no idea what number up to, but we are joined by Joni, as I won't say

super sleuth, researcher Joni. Hello. Thank you so much for being part of it. Thank you. Thanks for

having me. Wonderful. Well, we've just been on the phone for a bit for the episode Brian, but um,

so if you want, you can start off with what you want to know from the girls about where we're

at at the moment. Yeah, well, I mean, at the, at the end of the last episode of episode 40,

we went through the brief of evidence again. And I guess you two are very familiar with the

brief of evidence and would have known a lot of what's in there. Have you been surprised by

anything that we've uncovered like the, the, the, um, the, the alleged theft of the 50,000 euro

at the shopping centre in Brisbane in 2012? That, that sort of thing. When we actually looked at the

the police report, it appears the police were skeptical there was a theft. Anything like that

that you, you were surprised when you looked at the brief? Um, I think that happened on the gold

coast at Pacific Fair. Um, we obviously have seen all of that information. So it was

knowledge like we, we already knew about it, I guess, before other people knew about it. But

before, when you first saw it. Um, look, I instantly, I don't know, reading the whole thing,

I was just sitting there going, I can't actually believe this is actually a story. I,

I'm dumbfounded that this is actually really happening and that my mum has somehow been involved

with this person. Um, what did you think, Joni? I, I, it was just when I saw all of the aliases,

like I knew, I knew that there had to be one other particular big alias that he was using over

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