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Straight White American Jesus

Bonus Content: Anthea Butler On Trump’s Lack of Empathy

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

News, Politics

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content most Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 800-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/ Brad speaks to Professor Anthea Butler, a captain in the Biden campaign's "Catholics for Biden" initiative, and chair of the Religious Studies department at the University of Pennsylvania. They discuss the details of Trump's COVID diagnosis and how his recklessness is fueled by four things:  Prosperity Gospel positive thinking,  racism,  capitalism,  hypermasculinity.  These themes ground a conversation that ranges from Trump's lack of empathy for Americans, especially BIPOC, who have contracted the virus, his supporters' call for empathy after telling the nation that it was okay if "grandma dies" to save the economy, the conservative Evangelicals and Catholics who held a superspreader prayer rally at the Lincoln Memorial, and the belief that whiteness is a shield against the iniquities that plague other people. Linktree: https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC Order Brad's book: https://bookshop.org/a/95982/9781506482163 Check out BetterHelp and use my code SWA for a great deal: www.betterhelp.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Hello and welcome to Straight White American Jesus.

1:01.0

My name is Brad Unishi, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at Skidmore College.

1:04.8

And I am, if you listen to this show, you know that every week I'm thrilled because I get to have a conversation with a smart, insightful person.

1:12.7

And I've usually read their book or something like that.

1:15.6

Today, I don't know about the words that one could have to express how I feel about our guests today.

1:22.1

Somebody who's been an inspiration for public scholarship in the humanities for a long time, particularly in religious studies,

1:28.3

and someone who's fearless, insightful, and intrepid, and so that is Dr. Anthea Butler.

1:36.3

So Anthea, thank you for being here.

1:38.3

Oh, wow, thank you. That kind of introduction, I mean, that's a high bar.

1:42.3

Well, I've seen, well, you're going to fill it because

1:45.8

you're you and that's how it works. But let me tell folks about, about you. Dr. Anthea Butler is

1:52.0

Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania,

1:56.5

sought after commentator on the BBC, MSNBC, CNN, History Channel, PBS, basically everywhere,

2:04.9

is somebody who writes regularly on race, religion, politics, pop culture for NBC,

2:11.1

Religion, New Service, the Washington Post, CNN, and other places.

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