This is a CBC podcast.

Hey folks, it's Kathleen here from Crime Story.

And this week we have a special edition with the fabulous Connie Walker,

who was just named one of times people of the year.

We're talking to Connie about the new season of her Pulitzer Prize winning podcast Stolen.

In season 3, Connie investigates the disappearance of two women from the Navajo Nation,

a place where people say that you can get away with murder.

We discuss the cases and the troubling link that Connie discovers between the two of them.

And we'll also get into Connie's approach to her work.

Here's a clip from that conversation.

How did it feel like your last podcast was really about your father and the experiences and it was so personal and this one was personal because it was human nature and human beings and other indigenous women.

Did it feel different for you to approach it?

Like tell me a little bit about that because it really was such a different story for you.

And that was deliberate, honestly, like because surviving St. Michael's was such a deeply personal story like I

absolutely did not want to do something personal again right away like I think I'm still

honestly just kind of processing everything and I think that maybe maybe people have an idea that I know more than I I do or have.

I feel like this last, like, you know, the last, I guess five seasons of the podcast have been such an education for me as well.

Like, you know, I didn't know this history. I didn't, you know, I didn't

learn it in school. Like I have lived experiences so I knew part of it and I think that really helped me tell

these stories in important ways, but this has all been such an education

for me as well.

And so I think that it's been a lot, it's been a lot to do for sure.

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