Hey everybody, welcome back to Miraculous Mama's podcast. I'm your host, Elizabeth Joy,

and we believe in empowering women through storytelling and education. And I'm so glad

that you guys are joining me on this bonus episode. Yes, this is a bonus episode that we're

releasing. I had the opportunity to sit down with Sevilla Morgan and do this interview. And it was

such an amazing interview. So right now we're in between like the second to last week in April

was infertility awareness. And then May is maternal mental health awareness. And I thought that

this would be a good time to release this episode to you guys because Sevilla shares her story

of dealing with infertility. But also she started a community and just goes so much deeper

into it because she's really passionate about the community of people who are childless, not by

choice. So people who wanted to have kids and couldn't for whatever reason, maybe it's infertility,

maybe it's they never met the right person or who knows. So she dives into it with us and is

able to share her heart. She's able to share like I said, her story, but also everything that she

is doing in the community. And we even talk about things that maybe we could all work on to be

a little more aware and sensitive. And people will ask questions and like try to just start

conversation for like lack of anything better to do. But there's so many people there's one in

eight struggling with infertility. And then there's even more than that who maybe they just like I said

didn't find the right person or it was never the right time in life or various reasons didn't have

kids. And you know it's people will just ask, oh well what are you guys going to have kids or

aren't you going to do this? Aren't you going to whatever? And you just don't know somebody's

struggle of what they're going through. And when I did this interview with Sivila, I was just

listening to the stuff that she was saying and it does. I mean it just makes you stop and think

I feel like if you don't have a personal relationship with somebody and you're not like

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