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I've dream that you were twisting through seven suns of gold

and the gypsy was insisting.

Their story must be told.

I came two in the morning,

but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of the Soapful podcast.

I am joined by my friend and colleague, I would say,

Joe Shrank. Hello, Joe. Hello, how are you? Congratulations on the book, by the way.

I think it's done very well. That's awesome. Thank you. Yeah, no, it has. I'm really pleased.

I get people reaching out from all over the

world. It's very nice. First of all, Joe is, God, how long have we known each other?

20 years. No, I don't think it's that long. I think it's close. 15 or 16, yeah. Yeah,

so Joe and I met really professionally. I was in England. He was in America and we had international clients and somehow we kind of met and referred clients to each other and kind of just went from there really. And Joe's kind of like my American chip. He's my go-to person. And we're doing this special episode.

Don't worry, Chip's not being replaced.

He will be back.

Because we are working on something.

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