Welcome to another weekend bonus episode of the Tech Mem Ride Home.

I'm Brian McCullough.

So last week, the great Ed Zitron, head of the media relations firm EZPR, put out a post that got a lot of chatter where

he laid out a bear case for clubhouse.

I tweeted out, did anyone want to do a bull case for a clubhouse so we could do a bull bear debate episode?

And the great Joseph Flaherty of Founders Collective raised his hand and said he'd be game to do that. So this is what we have today. An

episode of two halves, two parts. First, Joe makes the bull case for clubhouse and

then after the break, Ed gives the bear take and that's it

great conversation great points made by both please enjoy

Joseph as I was saying off mic if you will, there doesn't really need to be anything to tee this up other than you've agreed to be the blue case for clubhouse. So let a rip. Tell me why you believe, and this is not to say that you believe, oh, it's the next Facebook or something, but this is going to be a successful company still around 10 years from now.

Yeah and just full disclosure we're not investors at the firm I work for a founder collective is not an investor in clubhouse.

We are just active and enthusiastic users of the product.

And as you say, I have no idea if this is going to be the next trillion dollar company,

but I do have every confidence that it will be around in five years, ten years, and certainly the change that it's brought to the world of social media is here to say.

I think the reason I'm most confident in making that assertion is this is arguably the oldest form of social networking before we had

written words before we were even really putting images up in the caves and let's go we were

sitting around fires as human beings discussing what was going to happen the next day, sharing

history, sharing strategies about how to handle the world that was all around us.

And the idea, I think it's, you know, the more important case to be made or the real onus is on the people who are bearish on this company that this case that has persisted for hundreds of thousands of years will not persist 100,000 years hence.

I think if anything the reason it has fallen out of favors

because the lack of technology to support it,

not because of any sort of intrinsic limitations.

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