Bonus: Borthwick on Janse van Rensburg, RFU review & summer schedule
Rugby Union Weekly
BBC
4.6 • 5.3K Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Ashy and Chris are back with a bonus pod after Steve Borthwick spoke to the media for the first time since England's disappointing Six Nations campaign. Chris went inside the camp to see the England head coach who explained why he's selected Benhard Janse van Rensburg selection for the three-day training camp and what he expects the South African-born centre to bring. But what does his selection mean for Ollie Lawrence and Max Ojomoh after they were omitted from the squad? We find out how Borthwick is planning to navigate a summer schedule that incudes matches on three different continents and if captain Maro Itoje could be rested. Borthwick also touches on the RFU review into England finishing fifth in the Six Nations.
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| 0:42.2 | Right, Rubbino Weekly, bonus pod time, Ashie. |
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| 0:46.1 | Morning, here we were, thinking that our next pod would be from Bill Bow, but no. |
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| 0:50.9 | Special episode. |
| 0:52.0 | We're back. |
| 0:52.5 | It feels like it was only yesterday. |
| 0:56.8 | We were sitting in Paddies doing our our pod how was your lunch very good it's always a great event um Sean Edwards win us |
| 1:06.3 | didn't see Sean Ed's Sean Edwards won the special award which is kind of like uh there are two awards there's the Pat Marshall Award which is like the sort of personality of the year and the special award is someone who's given a huge amount to the game more of a kind of longer service award but absolute legends of the game have won it over the years so Sean Edwards joined that. Was he there. He was there. Oh, amazing. |
| 1:28.3 | He came from Perpignan. |
| 1:30.3 | Sir Gareth Edwards came from Wales. |
| 1:32.3 | Oh, that's great. |
| 1:33.3 | Yeah, it was amazing. |
| 1:34.3 | I mean, it's shame none of the red roses came, which was a shame. |
| 1:38.3 | Do you know how the story how he ended up in Perpaniom? |
| 1:41.3 | Go on. |
| 1:42.3 | He'd signed obviously to France and he used to go, he just went down to see the Catalan Dragons visit. Because it's obviously a rubber league team. Yeah. He just walked in. And now he goes there all the time. He just sits in the stand with his notebook. Just watching Catalan Dragons? But he walked in and was like, |
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