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American Prestige

Bonus - Biden’s Foreign Policy Legacy w/ Jeet Heer (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Danny and Derek welcome to the program Jeet Heer, national affairs correspondent for The Nation, to talk about his new piece “How Biden’s Foreign Policy Destroyed His Presidency”. They discuss Biden’s origins and FP grounding, his conception of himself as an FP specialist, his fondness for military Keynesianism, how his views changed in the Obama era, the sanctions regime, his policies toward Ukraine and Israel-Palestine, “democracy vs autocracy”, and more.  Subscribe now for the full episode!      Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Preston of Conversation to your soul.

0:11.0

Hello, Prestige heads, and welcome to American Prestige.

0:25.3

I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade, Derek Davidson.

0:30.0

And we're very excited to welcome to the podcast today.

0:32.6

Jeet here.

0:33.4

I've been on Jeet's podcast a bunch, but this is, I believe, the first time he's been on ours.

0:38.0

But, you know, first time, long time for me.

0:40.6

First time, long time.

0:41.3

First time, I've been listening to Jeet and reading Jeet for a while.

0:45.6

So we're really happy to have him on.

0:47.2

And we've invited him to talk about his recent feature for the nation, titled How Biden's Foreign Policy Destroyed His Presidency.

0:54.4

And, Jeet, I guess I'll just start with the first question.

0:57.0

I know Joe Biden doesn't have a doctorate in foreign affairs, but how did he get to be that

1:02.1

fucking good?

1:05.5

Well, this is, well, I mean, you laugh, but that infamous tweet from Andrew Bates, the press category,

1:14.4

actually reflects apparently Biden's own opinions of himself, that Biden, you know,

1:18.9

went after his disastrous debate with Donald Trump, and there were calls for him to be stepped

1:23.8

down. He met up with moderate Democratic Congress people who were like his biggest supporters.

1:30.0

And one of the things he told him was, why aren't you talking about what a great foreign policy

1:34.0

president I've been? And that there's no one that's been better. And that I put together NATO.

1:39.9

So apparently he's mistake himself for Dean Atchison. And I put together, uh, a cause and, uh, and this was actually what, I mean, we tend

1:50.0

to forget this because, you know, had to switch over with Harris.

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