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Hurdle with Emily Abbate

[BONUS] Beyond the Finish Line: Des Linden & Molly Huddle On Redefining Success in Running & Life, LIVE From Every Woman's Marathon

Hurdle with Emily Abbate

iHeartPodcasts

Health & Fitness

51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Special episode popping into your feed today, live from Every Woman's Marathon, featuring Molly Huddle and Des Linden. Huddle's a 2x Olympian, and recently toed the line in Scottsdale for her first marathon since having her second child six months ago. Linden, the 2018 Boston Marathon Champion and fellow Olympian, recently ran the TCS New York City Marathon alongside first-timer Anthony Ramos. 

In this conversation, Huddle and Linden get candid about the highs and lows of training and competing, offering advice on how to conquer big goals while remaining honest and compassionate with yourself.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Molly Huddle’s first marathon back postpartum
  • Des Linden’s experience running the New York City Marathon alongside Anthony Ramos
  • How to conquer the “pain cave” during a hard race
  • The importance of self-compassion and being honest with yourself
  • Mental strategies for running a marathon (staying present, embracing the challenge)
  • The significance of celebrating the small wins
  • Advice for first-time marathoners
  • QUOTABLE MOMENTS

On Mental Toughness & The Pain Cave

  • "You're stronger than you think." – Des Linden (as parting advice to the audience)
  • "You didn't train so that this would be something easy. You trained so you'd be prepared for when it got difficult." – Des Linden
  • "The best thing to do for that [the pain cave] is to just stay in the moment." – Molly Huddle
  • "When you cross the finish line, you're going to just have that tool in your pocket of like, 'Look what I did, look what I can do.'" – Molly Huddle

On Strategy & Planning

  • "I like to just think bottle to bottle ... you can pretend you're starting over again." – Molly Huddle 
  • "Stay here... You're strong... Hang on." – Molly Huddle 
  • "What can I get out of something that's not going my way?" – Des Linden 
  • "If it was easy, everyone would do it." – Emily Abbate 

On Life, Balance, and Identity

  • "This year I will have made a baby, ran a marathon, and I'm like writing a book. Like, what's wrong with me? Like, why am I feeling like that's not enough stuff?" – Molly Huddle
  • "You put in work, and you stay committed, and have this self-belief, and if you keep looking forward, there's always things to tackle that are out in front of you." – Des Linden

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This year I will have made a baby, ran a marathon, and I'm, like, writing a book.

0:03.1

Like, what's wrong with me?

0:04.1

Like, why am I feeling like that's not enough stuff?

0:20.5

Hey, hey, Emily Abadi here.

0:22.5

Popping in with a special bonus episode of Hurtle,

0:26.3

a podcast where you'll get the true stories and mindset lessons

0:29.8

of the most inspiring women in sports and wellness,

0:33.2

empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life, and of course, conquer your

0:39.4

own hurdles along the way. This episode was recorded live at every woman's marathon in Scottsdale,

0:46.0

Arizona, and I am so excited to bring it to the feed. For it, I am chatting with Molly Huddle,

0:52.3

her first ever appearance on the show, a pro runner for Sokini.

0:56.9

Molly towed the line of every woman's marathon, checking off her first marathon since having

1:02.1

her second child just six months ago. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Also, a part of today's episode, Des Lyndon, a favorite of many, a past turtle guest.

1:15.0

She is the 2018 Boston Marathon Champion as well as co-host of Nobody Ask Us with Desin Kara,

1:23.1

along with Kara Goucher.

1:24.3

So many things I could say and accolades I could highlight about these women in this

1:28.5

intro, but want to keep things short and sweet. The conversation, not just advice for aspiring

1:35.0

marathoners, but also so many outstanding takeaways on how to show up and do hard things, self-belief,

1:42.6

and the importance of being honest with yourself, knowing

1:45.8

when to pivot from a goal and how to talk to yourself with compassion. Make sure you're

1:51.4

following along with Hurtle over on social. It's at Hurtle podcast. I am over at Emily Abadi. Make

1:56.7

sure you're following IHart Women Sports as well over at IHartwoman Sports and listen

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