Hey, everyone. This is Ari Melbert, and this is an exclusive for our podcast listeners. We haven't done this on TV, but we're doing it right now. I'm joined by Nick Ackerman and Maya Wiley, two people, I think you know if you're listening to our podcast. Thanks for coming on, you guys. That was great to be here.

Thanks for having us.

I wanted to run through a few more things here as a year-ender, as we think back on what has been quite a year.

To both of you

first, when you look at the Mueller probe, so much happened, what's going to matter? What do you think

will be in the history books? I think what's really going to matter are the fact that you've got

three cooperating witnesses that Mueller has turned that are going to be testifying. You've got

Michael Cohen, you've got Michael Cohen,

you've got Rick Gates, and you've got Michael Flynn. All of these people are very close to the

Trump orbit and are going to have a lot to say over the next coming year. And I think their

testimony is basically going to fill in two aspects of the Mueller probe,

which have already come out.

One is the conspiracy that was charged against the 13 Russian intelligence operatives for breaking

into the Democratic National Committee, stealing documents and emails, and essentially putting

those out there, releasing and staging the release of those documents.

And then you've got the second conspiracy, which has to do with the use of social media to

suppress the Hillary Clinton vote during the 2016 election. So I think what Mueller has done is

he's set up two big canvases. He's set up three major cooperating witnesses, and you're going to see a lot of other people

who are going to testify as well, that are going to fill in the blanks on both of those conspiracies

over the next year.

I agree with Nick.

I'll add some detail, because I think Michael Flynn, who has been sort of the quiet person for the

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