For this first bonus episode of Ransom, I'm here with producer Ben Kebrick,

and we really wanted to share more of our interview with former FBI hostage negotiator Ralph Harp.

So what are we going to be listening to here, Ben?

Yeah, so this is an edited down version of our interview with Ralph Harp. you know it's not the full thing but it's

a lot of the clips that didn't make their way into the main show you know we go out we

interview a ton of people and only a tiny fraction of that ends up in the main

podcast. So we thought that we share some. So Ralph goes into greater detail

about the early parts of the investigation,

that first night that he was out there with the Everett family.

And he also goes into how he joined the FBI

and became a hostage negotiator.

I guess can you start with, you know,

what's your name and in 1995

who did you work for and what did you do?

Okay, my name is Ralph Harp.

I was a special agent for the FBI.

In 1995, I was assigned to the Houston Field Office of the FBI.

All special agents are trained as investigators.

And then there are specialized training fields

that you can seek out when there are slots available. I was the team leader of our hostage

negotiation team and I was the team leader of our evidence response team. Those are the two venues that I was involved in in the McKay case.

Are you from that area of Texas originally? I'm originally, was born and raised in North Carolina when I graduated from a high school in

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